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severely punish any one found collaborating with the south. both sides say they want to talk but their rhetoric and actions seem to be pulling them further away from the negotiating table and closer to all out war. top of the hour. suzanne malveaux. i want to get you up to speed. the supreme court hears arizona's case for its immigration law, that's tomorrow. federal court has blocked four key parts of the law saying immigration is a federal responsibility. during the senate hearing held on this today a former arizona senator said he feels that arizona's law leads to harassment. >> i'm embarrassed for my state. i apologize for arizona's actions towards our latino community. legal or illegal.
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this is not a way to treat people. >> the law's author state senator pierce testified that a's's safety depends on the law. >> in syria the reports of deaths are mounting. a huge explosion rocked damascus today. kofi annan is expected to brief the security council about the latest. president obama has signed an executive order authorizing new sanctions against the syrian government and iran for attacking citizens. >> trial of the man accused of killing singer jennifer hudson's relative. hudson took the stand and broke down several times as she remembered having to identify her family's remains. her mother brother and nephew
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were killed. she testified that balfour threatened to kill her and her family after she told him she didn't want to be with him any more. the star witness is back on the stand. edwards is accused of using thousands of dollars in campaign funds to hide his affair with rielle hunter. andrew young felt that edwards was going to be the savior of america. >> mitt romney can't clinch the republican nomination today but he's going to step up big. five states holding primaries including new york and pennsylvania. romney's closest competitor is out of the race. an official says today marks the semiofficial end of the primary campaign. >> we don't have to tell you
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about the high cost of education xgs interest rate on some student loans could double on july 1 unless congress takes action. it's about economics, on the political side president obama is pushing extending the lower rates. coming up i want to bring in felicia taylor to talk about the economics of all of this. so, felicia, we know that this is going to have a big impact with families who have federal student loans. what is this going to mean for them? >> basically, it means that they are going to pay thousands of dollars more. federal student loan rates right now are at 3.4%. if congress doesn't act, it will rise to 6.8%. that's virtually double what the rate is now on july 1st. if you take out the maximum of $23,000 that means another 5,000 with a 10-year repayment plan. that's a long time. the redid used to be at 6.8% in 2007, then decreased over the years. and in 2007 democrats did take
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over the house and that's how that happened and they were able to cut the rates. jumping from 3.4 to 6.8%, i mean, that is a huge hit for families. >> how many people you think are going to be hit with this increase? >> it's millions. there are 7 million undergraduates who have federal student loans. more and more people are taking loans out because obviously tuition is expensive and frankly, it's just going to keep rising. others are going back to school because as you well know the employment picture isn't so great. they can't find work. they are trying to shore up their education so they are more applicable to other employment. so all tolled, americans have, get this, $900 billion in student loans. that's more than credit card debt and the more debt people take on obviously the harder it is to pay off. so delinquencies on student loans are also on the rise. so there is that domino effect we often see. >> what do folks do in the meantime? are they supposed to sit back and wait for congress to do
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something? >> yeah, that sounds great. not much after solution, is it. president obama and romney, the presidential candidate, both want current student loan rates to be extended but it's up to congress to enact a law. and there are a number of bills currently in the house and the senate but you know, getting something passed is obviously another story. this can take years. and people in the meantime have to pay. another real problem, though, is that even extending the current rate at 3.4% is going to cost $6 billion. frankly, the government should deal with it. this is affecting millions of people in the united states. >> it's much worse now. it took me years to pay off my student loans and i celebrated. i thought my god, i paid off my student loans. it's going to take that much longer now. it's really tough. >> there is no question about it. it's a big burden to carry. obviously you carry that on for possibly as much as a decade, well into adulthood and you
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know, then you're faced with whether or not you get a mortgage and education costs or maybe children you may have had by then. it's this roll on effect. >> we're going to listen closely to what the president is proposing very shortly. thank you. good to see you. >> some of the stories we're covering the next hour. first, as i mentioned live coverage of president obama's remarks at the university of north carolina. pushing congress to keep those rates from doubling on student loans. and a new york woman donates her kidney for her boss. now she says her kind act has back fired and she's out of a job. and then, iconic play on stage. i'll talk to one of the stars of a street car named desire. great shot.
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>> president obama's calling on congress to take action to prevent federal student loan rates doubling july 1. the president is set to speak in a few minutes. jessica yellin reports it's part of the president's efforts to shore up support among young voters. >> margo is bracing for the cost of her student loan to spike. >> it definitely makes my anxiety go up. >> she's one of more than 7 million americans whose federally subsidized loan interest rate is going to double to 6.8% when a law is set to expire in july. so, this week -- >> president obama will outline the administration's proposal to work with congress to keep interest rates down. >> he's going on the jimmy fallon show and pitching his message to college audiences in battleground states, north carolina, colorado, and iowa. just the mention of college loans is an applause line on campuses. >> you got financial aid.
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or a student loan, a scholarship. >> the president needs these voters badly. in 2008 he won the youth vote by 66%. though 18 to 29-year-olds made up only a fraction of the electorate they were crucial to his victory. for example, the president won north carolina by just 1%, but he carried young voters by a whopping 74%. hard to imagine that victory without the college crowd. but now, times have changed. >> some who voted won't go at all and frankly, this is one of these kinds of groups that you can't afford to lose a percentage point. >> the national unemployment rate among 20-24-year-olds is 5 points higher than the national average. and americans owe $1 trillion in student loan dent. this college republican says the talk on campus is not
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optimistic. >> i can't pay my student loan, i can't find a job to help pay for that, and that's why that level of excitement isn't here. i'm not seeing it. >> that's just what mitt romney is hoping for. >> i think this is a time when young people are questioning the support they gave to president obama. he promised a future with good jobs and good opportunity. that hasn't happened. >> jessica yellin is joining us from chapel hill, north carolina where the president is speaking. we'll take that live as soon as it starts. we know you and i both covered obama in 2008. it was the young folks who supported him who put him over the top. how is he going to win them over, get them back to the polls once again? >> well, one of the ways he hopes to keep up the young vote, youth vote, is by pushing issues like this one which is to keep college -- the rate on interest rate on student loans down. the student vote, the youth vote
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helped him in certain states like north carolina suzanne, and it did make a difference here. i don't know that it helped put him over the top everywhere. let's listen to the president. >> hello, north carolina. what's up tar heels? now, first of all, i want to thank dominique for that unbelievable introduction. wasn't she good. you can tell she will be an outstanding teacher. and -- i love you back. i do. love north carolina. i love north carolina.
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i do. every time -- every time i come down to this state i just love it that much more. i said a while back thing about north carolina even the folks who don't vote for me are nice to me. i can't say that about every place. now, i want to issue a quick spoiler alert. later today i am getting together with jimmy fallon and the dave matthews band right here on campus. we're going to tape jimmy's show for tonight. so, i want everybody to tune in. make sure it has high ratings. dave matthews band right here. we've got some wonderful people who are here who are doing a
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great job for you guys. first of all, your governor is in the house. give her a big round of applause. there she is. you got your congressman dave price. congressman david price. congressman j.k. butterfield. congressman brad miller. your mayor mark kleinschmidt. chancellor of unc, holden thorp. it is -- it is -- it is great to be back on the lady tar heels home court. this is an arena with some serious hoops history.
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i know the men's team used to play here back in the day. i just want to remind you right off the bat i picked unc to win it all in march madness. and if kendall hadn't gotten hurt, you know, who knows where we might have been. i saw mcadoo at the airport. i was excited. so i just want you to know, i have faith in you guys. it's always good to begin with easy applause lines, talk about the tar heels. but, the reason i came to chapel hill today is to talk about what most of you do here every single
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day. that's study. i assume. higher education is the single most important investment you can make in your future. so i'm proud of all of you for doing what it takes to make that investment. for the long hours in the library, i hope, in the lab, in the classroom, this has never been more important. whether you're here at a four-year college or university or you're at a two-year college, in today's economy there is no greater predictor of individual success than a good education. right now the unemployment rate
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for americans with a college degree or more is about half the national average. the incomes of folks with a college degree are twice as high as those who don't have a high school diploma. a higher education is the clearest path in to the middle class. now, i know that those of you who are about to graduate are wondering about what's in store for your future. not even four years ago just as the global economy was about to enter into free fall you were still trying to find your way around campus and you've spent your years here at a time when the whole world has been trying to recover but has not yet fully recovered from the worst economic crisis since the great depression. the worst economic crisis in most of our lifetimes, that includes your teachers.
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our businesses have added more than 4 million jobs over the past two years, but we all know there's still too many americans out there looking for work or trying to find a job that pays enough to cover the bills and make the mortgage. we still have too many folks in the middle class that are searching for that security that started slipping away years before the recession hit. so we've still got a lot of work to do to rebuild this economy so that it lasts. so that it's solid, so it's firm. but what i want you to know is that the degree you earn from unc will be the best tool you have to achieve that basic american promise, the idea that if you work hard, you can do well enough to raise a family and own a home, send your own kids to college, put a little away for retirement, that american dream is within your reach.
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and there's another part of this dream which is the idea that each generation is going to know a little bit more opportunity than the last generation. that our kids, i can tell you now as a parent, and i guarantee you your parents feel this about you, nothing's more important than your kids' success. you want them to do better than you did. you want them to shoot higher, strive more, and succeed beyond your imagination. so, keeping that promise alive is the defining issue of our time. i don't want this to be a country where a shrinking number of americans are doing really, really well but a growing number of people are just struggling to get by. that's not my idea of america.
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i don't want that future for you, i don't want that future for my daughters, i want this forever to be a country where everybody gets a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same set of rules. that's the america i know and love. that's the america within our reach. i think back to my grandfather. he had a chance to go to college because this country decided every returning veteran of world war ii should be able to afford it. should be able to go to college. my mother was able to raise two kids by herself because she was able to get grants and work her way through school. i am only standing here today,
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michelle is only who she is today, because -- because of scholarships and student loans. that gave us a shot at a great education. we didn't come from families of means. but we knew that if we worked hard we'd have a shot. this country has always made a commitment to put a good education within the reach of all who are willing to work for it. that's what makes us special. that's what made us an economic super power, that's what kept us at the forefront of business and science and technology and medicine and that's a commitments we have to reaffirm today in 2012. now, everybody will give lip
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service to this. you'll hear a lot of folks say yeah, education is important, it's important. but, but it requires not just words but deeds. and the fact is that since most of you were born, tuition and fees at america's colleges have more than doubled. and that forces students like you to take out a lot more loans, there are fewer grants, you rack up more debt. can i get an amen. now, the average student who borrows to pay for college now graduates with about $25,000 in student loan debt. that's the average. some are more. can i get an amen for that.
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i know. some folks have more debt than that. americans now owe more on their student loans than they do on their credit cards. living with that kind of debt means that this generation's not getting off to the same start that the previous generations because you're already loaded up with debt. that means you've got to make pretty tough choices when you are first starting out. you might have to put off buying a house. it might mean that you can't go after that great idea for a start-up that you have because you're still paying off loans. maybe you've got to wait longer to start a family or save for retirement. when a big chunk of every paycheck goes toward loan debt
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that's not just tough on you, that's not just tough for middle class families, it's not just tough on your parents, it's painful for the economy. because -- because that money is not going to help businesses grow. think about the sooner you can start buying a house, that's good for the housing industry. the sooner you can start up that business, that means you're hiring some folks, that grows the economy. and this is something michelle and i know about first-hand. i just want everybody here to understand, this is not -- i didn't just read about this. i didn't just -- i didn't just get some talking points about this. i didn't just get a policy briefing on this. michelle and i, we've been in your shoes.
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like i said we didn't come from wealthy families. when we graduated from college and law school we had a mountain of debt. when we married we got poor together. we added up our assets and there were no assets. and we added up our liabilities and there were a lot of liabilities, basically in the form of student loans. we paid more in student loans than we paid on our mortgage when we finally did buy a condo for the first eight years of our marriage. we were paying more in student loans than for our mortgage. so we know what this is about. we were lucky to land good jobs with a steady income. but we only finished paying off our student loans, check this out, i'm the president of the
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united states. we -- we only finished paying off our student loans about eight years ago. that wasn't that long ago. and that wasn't easy especially because when we had malia and sasha, we're supposed to be saving up for their college educations, and we're still paying off our college educations. so, we have to make college more affordable for our young people. that's the bottom line. and like i said, look. not everybody's going to go to a four-year college or university. you may go to a community college, you may go to a technical school and get into the work force and then it may turn out that after you've had
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kids and you're 35 you go back to school because you're retraining for something new. no matter what it is, no matter what field you're in, you're going to have to engage in life long learning. that's the nature of the economy today and we've got to make sure that's affordable. that's good for the country, it's good for you. at this make or break moment for the middle class, we've got to make sure that you're not saddled with debt before you even get started in life. because i believe college isn't just one of the best investments you can make in your future. it's one of the best investments america can make in our future. this is important for all of us. we can't price the middle class out of a college education. not at a time when most new jobs in america will require more than a high school diploma.
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whether it's at a 4-year college or 2-year program we can't make college education a luxury. every american family should be able to afford it. so that's why i'm here. now, before i ask for your help. i've got something specific i need you to do. but north carolina indulge me, i want to briefly tell what you we've already done to help make college more affordable because we've done a lot. before i took office we had a student loan system where tens of billions of taxpayer dollars were going to banks, not students. they were processing student loan programs except the student loans were federally guaranteed so they weren't taking big risks but still taking billions of dollars out of the system. so we changed it. some in washington fought tooth and nail to protect the status
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quo where billions of dollars were going to banks instead of students. they wanted to protect that, keep those dollars flowing to the banks. one of them said, i'm going to quote here, it gives you a sense of the attitude sometimes we're dealing with in washington. they said it would be an outrage if we change the system so that the money wasn't going through banks and they weren't making billions of dollars of profits. said it was an outrage. and i said no, the real outrage is letting these banks keep these subsidies without taking risks while students are working two or three jobs just to get by. that's an outrage. so, we kept at it. we kept at it. we won that fight. today, that money is going where it should be going, should have been going in the first place. it's going directly to students where we're bypassing the middle man.
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that means we can raise pell grants to a higher level, more people are eligible, more young people are able to afford college because of what we did. over ten years that's going to be $60 billion that's going to students that wasn't going to students before. then last fall i acted to cap student loan payments faster so nearly 1.6 million students who make their payments on time will only have to pay 10% of their monthly income toward loans once they graduate. this is useful, this is especially helpful for young people who decide like dominique to become teachers or maybe go into one of the -- social work or one of the helping professions. and they may not get paid a lot
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of money but they have got a lot of debt. so being able to cap how much per month you're paying as a percentage of income gives awe little more security knowing you can choose that profession. and then we wanted every student to have access to a simple fact sheet on student loans and financial aid. you can have all of the information you need to make your own choices about how to pay for college. and we set up this new consumer watchdog called the consumer financial protection bureau. and so they are now putting out this information, we call it know before you owe. sometimes we got surprised. by some of this debt that we were racking up. so, that's what we've done. but it's not enough just to increase student aid. we can't keep subsidizing sky
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rocketing tuition or we'll run out of money. and college and universities, they have to do their part also to keep college costs down. so, i've told congress to steer federal aid to those schools that keep tuition affordable, that provide good value that serve their students well. we put colleges on notice if you can't stop tuition from going up every year, a lot faster than inflation then funding you get from taxpayers at the federal level will go down because we need to push colleges to do better and hold them accountable if they don't. now, public universities know well and governor purdue knows well states have to do their part by making higher education a higher priority in their budgets.
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i know thbeth is fighting hard. that's a priority for her. last year over 40 states cut higher education spending. these budget cuts have been among the largest factors in tuition increases at public colleges over the past decade so we're challenging states to take responsibility. we told them if you can find new ways to bring down costs of college and make it easier for students to graduate we'll help you do it. but i want everybody here as you're thinking about voting, make sure you know where your state representative and your state senator stand when it comes to funding higher education. they have got to be responsible, they have got to be accountable, as well to prioritize higher education.
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all right. so, helping more families, helping more young people afford a higher education, offering incentives for states and colleges and universities to keep costs down, that's what we've been doing. now, congress has to do their part. they need to extend the tuition tax credit that we put in place back when i came into office. it's saving middle class families thousands of dollars. congress needs to safeguard aid for low income students like pell grants so that today's freshmen and sophomores know that they will be able to count on it. that's what congress has to do. congress needs to give more young people the chance to earn their way through college by doubling the number of work study jobs over the next five years.
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that's what congress needs to do. and then there's one specific thing. now this is where you come in. one specific thing that congress needs to do right now. to prevent the interest rates on student loans, federal student loans action from shooting up and shaking you down. so this is where you come in. i want to explain this. so listen carefully. five years ago congress cut the rate on federal student loans in half. that was a good thing to do. but on july 1st, that's a little over two months from now, that rate cut expires. and if congress does nothing, the interest rates on those loans will double overnight. so, i'm assuming a lot of people here have federal student loans. the interest rates will double
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unless congress acts by july 1st. and just to give you some sense of perspective for each year that congress doesn't act, the average student with these loans will rack up an additional $1,000 in debt. an extra $1,000. that's basically a tax hike for more than 7 million students across america. more than 160,000 students here in north carolina alone. anybody here can afford to pay an extra $1,000 right now? i didn't think so. so, stopping this from happening should be a no-brainer. helping more of our young people afford college, that should be at the forefront of america's agenda, it shouldn't be a republican or a democratic issue.
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this is an american issue. you know, the stafford loans we're talking about, they are named after a republican senator. the pell grants that helped millions of americans earn a college education, that's named after a democratic senator. when congress cut those rates five years ago, 77 republicans in the house of representatives voted for it. along with a couple of hundred democrats. including the democrats who are here. >> listening to president obama, this is at chapel hill, north carolina before students. we're also going to hear from the president's rival mitt romney making a special address tonight from new hampshire as the primary results are rolling in. 9:00 eastern here on cnn.
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mitt romney, he's not going to get enough votes to clinch the republican nomination but is going to move closer to sealing the deal. five states holding their primaries, it is the biggest day in the republican race since super tuesday. joining us to talk about politics, john, good to see you. so, first of all, listening to president obama, some things that struck me. he says this is not a policy briefing or talking point, what he talked about he and first lady michelle being poor, having to pay off student loans. definitely sounded like a jab to mitt romney that he is basically getting started here. >> yeah. it's one more way, suzanne, we're adding to a choice election. making what it is i think an objectively interesting point it was eight years ago, he said, when he and the first lady paid off their college loans. that is a directly relatable points to the folks in this student audience, the kind of crowd that president obama likes
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speaking to. it highlights the degree to which there is currently an age deficit that mitt romney and the republicans need to make up. they need to grow their share of that crucial millennial vote. and it's arguments like the one president ob made that can help perhaps keep the youth vote in his corner. >> one of the things in 2008 was that president then candidate obama got the biggest applause when he talked about requiring them to do something for their country, that after college the government would pay off their student loans but require them to do some sort of public service. it played people feel invested and involved in his victory here. you can see the same things are happening here with the young audience. it seems like this is going to be a very important strategy going forward. >> it is. and that argument, you heard president obama harkining back to the g.i. bill which helped his grandfather get an education. it's the rights and responsibilities i think that does allow candidates from
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either party to connect and transcend partisan divide. the problem is this time around youth unemployment is very high. that's an area where mitt romney and the republicans can make a credible argument and say obama's policies have not worked out for young people. that's one area i think you'll see an attempt to erase some of this youth advantage the president obama had. certainly in the last election 2 to 1 and currently has as well. >> john, we're going to hear from mitt romney, 9:00 this evening. a major speech, assuming that he is going to essentially say i am the republican candidate now. he won't have the numbers but the momentum. nobody is going to get in his way. do we anticipate that, a, he might make an announcement regarding a v.p. pick or is that way down the line, secondly, do we think this is an opportunity for newt gingrich to get out of the race? >> well, certainly there will be no v.p. announcement tonight. this is a long process. he's appointed his long time aide beth meyers to pursue that.
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that's months out. you'll hear, though, governor romney try to pivot aggressively to the general election, keeping his sights on president obama and calling for the rest of the candidates notably newt gingrich and ron paul, to get out of the race, to make this all but official nomination status that much more official. this is five states voting tonight. this is romney's back yard. this is the northeast. always states he's expected to do very well in. newt gingrich is trying to make a last stand effort in delaware. we'll see how that goes. ron paul has been running ads in rhode island. big speech tonight. >> thank you, john. we'll all be watching. she donated a kidney for her boss and her boss gave her the boot. a workplace drama you're not going to believe. active naturals wheat formulas restore strength for up to 90% less breakage in three washes. for strong, healthy hair with life, new aveeno nourish+ strengthen.
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government star witness back on the stand now in the trial of john edwards. he's accused of using hundreds of thousands of dollars from two donors to hide his extra marital
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affair with rielle hunter. we're learning from one of edwards' top aides, andrew young in court. some testimony, some details that is really salacious and surprising. >> that's right. certainly he is the government's key witness. he was there with edwards, with rielle hunter. the bank account that was used to funnel money from bunny mellon to edwards to sort of hide the pregnancy -- one of the donors, went to his account that andrew young shared with his wife. what we are hearing, suzanne, in the courtroom apparently when edwards found out that hunter was pregnant he told andrew young she's a crazy slut and there is a one in three chance it's his child. we're learning sort of what edwards' reaction was when this -- when the news came that
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apparently rielle hunter was pregnant. that's really important in this case because this case is very much about what edwards knew about campaign finance law and whether or not he broke that law intentionally, or whether or not he really used this money to hide this affair and all of these salacious details from his then ailing wife elizabeth edwards, rather than trying to protect his presidential campaign. so really a sticky, i think, topic for this jury. >> is it tough, we're seeing new details. it does not paint john edwards as a nice guy or a good guy by any stretch. do we think it's going to be tough to prove that he broke the law as we get these details? >> you know, i do. i do. because this is unprecedented. and unprecedented use of the campaign finance laws. certainly you can't give campaign contributions over $2300. but this kind of thing, these non-campaign expenses being paid
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for by donors, that's something you usually see in civil court before the federal election commission. you don't see it in criminal court. so i think again, the question here or rather the case turns on whether or not he used this money to hide his affair with rielle hunter from his wife or whether or not he used to the protect his presidential campaign. that's a really difficult call. did he do some really terrible things, behave badly, absolutely. did he break the law, i'm not so sure. >> i want to also bring up another case here. this is bizarre lawsuit we've been talking about here. this is this new york woman says she was fired after donating a kidney to help her boss. that she was working for her boss, she was offered -- she ended up donating this kidney and then later found out she was fired and believes that she's got a suit. she's got a real case against this company and her boss. >> isn't this remarkable. in the first instance i make of
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it you don't donate your kidney to your boss if you're an employee. and if you're an employer, don't take a kidney from your employee because certainly there's the appearance of inpropriety as a supervisor, as a boss you're in this position of power, there is a conflict of interest. couldn't you see this coming, couldn't you see the lawsuit. i think one thing that isn't being discussed is the fact she didn't necessarily give her kidney to this person. she gave, as she intended to but it wasn't a perfect match so gave the kidney to someone else which then bumped up her boss on the donor list, then her boss did get a kidney that perhaps her boss wouldn't otherwise have received. so there is a little bit, i guess it's a little bit of a tenuous relationship. the bottom line there is that appearance of impropriety. i'm sure she expected some sort of special treatment giving up your body part. >> two things. i know we have comments, but i have to read the statement from
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the employer atlantic auto group. it says it's unfortunate one employee used her own generous act to make up a groundless claim atlantic auto treated her appropriately and acted honorably and fairly at every turn. i want to get that in. the viewers have been responding on this. here's what come of you said. propaganda tweets it's the act of compassion that counts. she did a good deed, she shouldn't be upset. let karma handle it. torry writes if giving my boss an internal organ doesn't guarantee long term employment what could. lesson learned. keep your kidney to yourself. keep the conversation going. tweet me at suzanne malveaux, like me at my facebook page. really, i mean, a lot of people are talking about this because it is so bizarre. it's weird. i think yes, lesson learned. >> keep your kidney. >> keep it for yourself. >> draw the line somewhere. thank you very much, sunny.
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good to see you in person. pleasure. >> street car named desire, one of the most iconic plays but a new production is like nothing you've seen. you meet one of the stars up ahead.
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>> of. >> streetcar named desire, one of the most iconic plays america has ever produced. it tells the story of a fading southern bell and her sister stella and her husband stanley. it's got all the elements of a classic -- sex, class and of course some secrets. now there's a new version of the play on broad kay featuring a mostly african-american cast. take a look. >> you must be stanley. i'm blanche. >> oh, stella's sister. >> yes. >> hello. >> where is the little woman? >> in the bathroom. >> oh. i didn't know you were coming in town.
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where are you from, blanche? >> i live in laurel now. >> oh, laurel. yeah, that's right. not in my territory. have a shot? >> noo, i rarely touch it. >> joining me to talk about this, one of the play's stars. you probably also remember her from her role on "soul food." nicole, really nice to see you -- >> thanks for having me. >> my pleasure, i was there for opening night and i have to say you looked beautiful, you an blair underwood, both. i know the guys in my team here are all ready to leave their wooifs. they're just crazy abyou here. you have a beautiful husband as well. they don't compare. >> all the ladies love my husband, too. >> yes. we saw all of you that evening. it was so passionate and you really did take on that character, the character 245 grew up in lesion fields. my mom grew up there.
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we're telling your story a little bit. >> i'm really the poster child now for dreams really do come true. uh it took 20 years for me to get this phone call. i'm just so great that they made this happen and took a chance on me. the material itself is very challenging. but with this cast and the music, we just brought it to life in a fresh way. and people were talking about the multiracial casting, but what emily mann has done is actually using the original text is of tennessee williams play
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with a few changes just for segregation purposes. it's how we as human beings with her weaknesses and strengths get through life. >> you and marlon brando, were there things that you changed? >> there's a restaurant that they go. at the time, it was segregated. where this family might have gone together is took sdookie c. i think the year that stanley was in the army has changed a bit to make sure that blair's
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character would have been in that troop. but other than that, there's very few changes. shep huntley is one of the references that blanch makes. he's a texas oil millionaire. and there's been some concern about whether or not that would have been possible. not only is it possible, but in 1939, one of the oil frontries was owned by an afterman american woman. there were a number of black millionaires in the deep south, texas, places we don't learn about. >> it's fantastic. i'm sorry i've got to cut you off here. president obama took a little bit of your time earlier in our show. we will have you back. thanks again, nicole. [ tires squeal, engine revs ] ♪ ♪
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welcome back to cnn. a busy couple of hours as always. the feds have filed the first charge in the bp oil spill. they were arrested accused of destroying evidence. the spill is the worst environmental disaster in u.s. history. also, what happened today in the trial of john edwards.
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the details are pretty explosive. in fact, one of the developments is what the former senator's mistress did when she found out she was pregnant. joe johns just stepped out of court. we'll take you there live in just a couple of minutes. the deadly armored car heist, police say in pittsburgh. this man here, keep in mind, he's an employee -- was, i should say. stole $2 million from his armored truck then shot his fellow guard in the head. president obama would like to help students afford to pay their loans back and he's pushing congress to act to keep student loan rates from doubling. that could happen by the deadline of july 1. the president also using the issue to stump for re-election
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votes. here's what he said in chapel hill, north carolina. take a listen. >> i don't want this to be a country where a few people are doing really, really well but the majority of people are struggling to get by. that's not my idea of america. i don't want that future for you or my daughters. i want this forever to be a country where everybody gets a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is play big the same set of rules. >> mitt romney says he, too, thinks song needs to act on this particular issue. at issue, defense and prosecutors are arguing over exactly how much evidence should be revealed publicly and in the courtroom.
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and just revealed today, al qaeda's plan to attack more targets inside the united states. bombing the long island railroad and walmart back in 2008. how? someone would leave a bomb inside a suitcase on the train and in the walmart store. put explosives inside and then return it to the store. it is the biggest day of republican primary voting. ever since super tuesday. and mitt romney is simplying looing to further cement his lead here. so deep in mind, we're talking primaries in five different states today. you have delicate, delaware, new york, pennsylvania and rhode island. also newt gingrich does say he's going to reassess hiss campaign kpend depending on today's primary outcome. relocating, the new jersey nets say so long to new york and hello to brooklyn. as for chris christie, he came right out and said it. good riddance. >> i'm not going to be in the
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business of begging people to stay here. this is in one of the country's most vibrant cities. they want to leave her and go to brooklyn? good riddance. see you later. >> the move to brooklyn happens next season. take a look at this surveillance video. see the truck come crashing through this window? the store is a gun store. two people ransacked the place. you see them running around. i know it's dark to see. but they ransacked the place taking more than 20 assault weapons and pistols. our affiliate thinks deputies found the stolen truck involved but no weapons and still no suspects. and just because this is cool. take a look. amazing light show. spectacular northern lights all across the skies over minnesota this morning. this was shot by some storm chases. look at the purples there or yellows.
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we're guessing that was a nice change of pace for the storm chasers here. pretty pictures. we have a lot more for you in the next two hours including this. an alleged drunk driver t bones a minivan. inside a young girl who ultimately dies in the arms of a good samaritan on the scene. now that girl's teenage sister gives an emotional plea to keep this suspect behind bars. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >> this is the border between the united states and mexico pop. a behind the scenes look at the race to protect the border. >> this is the future. this is a predator. >> ferraris, lamborghinis, porsches going 100 miles an hour down a highway. allegedly leading the way here? police cars. we'll take you inside the so-called death race. >> plus tragedy on stage. an actor accidentally hangs
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himself in a production of "passion of the christ." wall street is on the edge of its seat today. in less than two hours, apple makes a big announcement that could send ripples through the market.
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i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. the trial continues for john edwards. this is rielle hunter. on the witness stand, a former
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edwards aide was recounting the moment when he broke the news to edwards that rielle hunter was pregnant. according to this aide, edwards said, quote, she's a crazy person. although he didn't use the word "person." he used a word that starts with s-l. 5 eh said there was just a 1 in 3 chance the child belonged to edwards. racy testimony. tell me what else did you hear from the former aid, andrew young. >> there's just a lot of stuff here, a lot of detail. a bunch of this is in andrew young's book when he sort of recounted his relationship with both senator edwards and rielle hunter. she called to disclose to him that she was pregnant with
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edwar edwards' child. when he finally got her on the phone, he answered it by saying it's so important, somebody's got to be pregnant or dead. she said nobody was dead. this is really a story about money, politics and sex in a lot of ways and campaign finance, of course. so there's bonnie melon from northern virginia, who agrees no questions asked to give hundreds of thousands of dollars to john edwards for what's described as a noncampaign focus. the checks start small and gradually grow bigger. she says she believes in john edwards and she thinks he can rescue america. of course, it didn't turn out that way. the money actually was used, as
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was recounted in testimony by andrew young to pay for, among other things, a house for rielle hunter to move into very close to andrew young's house in north carolina. also a $5,000 allowance that sometimes went up to $12,000 a month. other things including a car, a bmw. all of this because she was threatening to go public with the story that certainly would have ended john edwards' political career, which it pretty much did. >> ultimately it was trials about money, politics and sex. really the crux of it is whether or not they broke these campaign finance laws, correct? and the fact that you mentioned bunny melon, the fred baron, the other donor who passed a couple of years ago. ultimately didn't the money come to something like $1 million?
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>> absolutely. you're right. i thought it was important in the testimony today. it was made pretty clear that bunny melon believed she was paying this cash for noncampaign pumps. it's an issue of intent to break the campaign finance laws. remember, this is just the story that andrew young tells. he still has to be cross-examined by the defense. they're going to bring up all sorts of thing, including probably his reaching out to three other defense witnesses to find out what they were going to say. the judge has already said the attorneys cannot use words like witness tampering in talking to the jury about that. long way to go here. this is going to last weeks, brooke. >> well with eknow we can't have cameras in that courtroom because it's federal.
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we're going to rely on you and your reporting in these details. we'll check back in with you. mitt romney and president obama, they agree on something. but that doesn't mean congress will. the president targeting the youth vote by talking college loans. but the clock keeps ticking. plus, i'm going to speak with a special guest from my alma mater, unc chapel hill. [ man ] may ford. hi, yeah. do you guys have any crossovers that offer better highway fuel economy than the chevy equinox? no, sorry, sir. we don't. oh, well, that's too bad. [ man ] kyle, is that you? [ laughs ] [ man ] still here, kyle. [ male announcer ] visit your local chevy dealer today. right now, very well qualified lessees can get a 2012 equinox ls for around $229 a month.
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all tlooe are in play here in 2012. another noncoincidence i want to point out, he is talking all day about student loans. hopes to make this an issue to him or his opponents, such as unnamed republican congresswoman h equoted drg his speech. she said, she had very little toll rans for people who graduate with debt because there's no reason for that. i'm just quoting here. i'm just quoting. she said students who wrack up student loan debt are just sitting on their butts having opportunity dumped in your lamp.
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>> want to go to jessica yellin live at my alma mater, unc chapel hill if they're not treating you well, let me know. i do want to begin quickly here. we're hearing from the president, issue is the stafford loans. what's theish smu? >> these subsidized loans will double. the interest rates will double from current rate of 3.4%, 7 million americans paying from that rate right now. and it will jump to 6.8% on july 1 unless congress decides to freeze the current rate. there's a lot of concern about 9 cost to the federal govs. the budget office estimates it will cost $6 billion for one year to extend that current rate at the low rate. on the one hand, a lot of people want to keep the interest rate
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low, on the other hand, a lot of people are asking how are you going to pay for it? what is the offset? that's the offset now and that congress says it's going to take on in the coming weeks and months. brooke? >> as we mentioned, north carolina, colorado, talking student loans. we talked so much about the importance of women who vote. but what about voters under the age of 30. i know it was an important base for him in 2008. how important will they be this november? >> crucial. i'll tell you why. >> it was about a fifth of the electorate in 2008. here's where it's crucial. how did obama eke out victory? he won young voters by 74%. he just swept young voters. and he won just by 1%.
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it's hard to imagine he would have been able to get that 1% victory had he not swept voters. -- young voters. he wants to drum up enthusiasm among young voters. and i'm told you'll know what to do. tar -- >> heel. >> they said you wouldn't keep me hanging. >> i've got you. i know that chant. thank you so much. we appreciate it. and off to colorado the president goes. speak of course students, one more thing from the speech that the president made. actually not the speech itself, but the student who introduced him. take a listen. >> if interest rates were to double, that would mean that many students who would love to and deserve to take part in extracurricular activities and be a part of the university would have to work or live at home instead of having that college experience because they
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would be more focused on just being able to pay for their college education. >> there's the president come into your picture. wait for it. there it is. a nice hug to caroline, a senior. dominique garland is also live in chapel hill. so nice to meet you. talk to us about a little tar heel. i'm so proud of you, congrats on almost graduating. and here you are introducing the pft ott united states. were you nervous? how did it go? >> yes. you know, before i actually got into the corridor, i was really nervous. i was standing with the person who sung the national anthem. and once we act which youlely got in there and the president came out, he was so warm and welcoming that all of my jitters went away and i was able to perform the speemch. >> what did he whisper in your ear? >> good job. you did wonderful, we can tell you'll be a great teacher. and he went on to announce that.
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wonderful. >> that's a day you're going to remember forever. let's talk about one of the reasons why, you know, you were probably chosen to be introducing the president as your story is jermaigermane 20 you're talking about today. congress is ultimately the ones to decide whether they'll pass the act or the interest rates will double. your personal story if they don't do that and the rates double, how does that affect you and your little sister? >> yeah. i've had college loans here at unc chapel hill. although they have definitely accumulated. i feel the effect will not be as bad. however, when i get to columbia for grad school, i definitely will have student loans. paying that is a major task, especially on a teacher's salary. my parents can't support me and my finances. i also help my sister with her
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finances. for her, the fist thing on her minds, will she be able to pay off her debts is sad to me personally because i had such a wonderful experience here, which i'm sure you did. and it would be sad to see her have to work instead. >> and republicans are also saying, gop rival mitt romney saying yes, we agree, you know, these interest rates shouldn't double. is there anything through the speech, i was listening and there were a couple of of massive applauses. was there any one particular thing that president obama said that really struck a cord with you? >> well, you know, i've always seen how my parents and my grandparents have fought to make sure that i was able to get the education that i'm getting right now and to have the students that i'm having right now. when he pointed out the struggle and the fact that our parents did struggle and their purpose of struggling was to get us here and now we're having trouble
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being able to maintain this, that's something that definitely stuck to me. so yeah. >> good luck on may 13. that's the big day, right? the carolina blue cap and gown. mine is still hanging up in my house. and bis to you. best to you at columbia and your young sister. go heels. >> thank you, same to you. >> and joining me now, we're speaking with arnie duncan. i'm going to ask him about the potential fight in congress over this issue this summer. also, still ahead, this is a sad one. a young girl dies in a violent car crash. police say a drunk driver is to blame. now the girl's big sister is begging to keep the suspect behind bars. you're going to hear her heart breaking plea. and what happened inside court today. stay right there. [ pilot ] flying teaches me to prepare for turbulence.
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an absolutely who riffing crash in miami takes the life of
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a 13-year-old girl. she died moments of she was pulled from the wreckage. police say the man who caused the crash was drunk. he has been charged with killing her, but hours ago, a judge lowered his bond. kale lee's family is heart broken her older sister posted this to facebook a couple of days ago. >> she was taken to the trauma scepter. my parents told me she had passed away. my little sister. she was 13. >> it's tough to listen to. >> police say a land rover going at speeds more than 100 miles an hour slams into the minivan. this thing was just torn in half. police say the driver, who has been charged, got out of his vehicle and ran from from the
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scene. let's go to john zarrello. talk to me about what happened in court just this morning. >> that facebook video ran about 4 1/2 minutes and posted by the 16-year-old sister of kyli kylie camacho who died in the crash. the reason she posted that was to try to gain support from friends, from family, from people out there, because she knew they were go i think to court today to try to get a reduced bond, the defendant and the defendant's attorney. in court today, family and friends of the victim packed that courtroom in miami, and of course, sander guillen there as well in the jump suit with members of his family, his defense team as well. now if you listen to some of the charges that sander faces. vehicle homicide, dui manslaughter, leaving the scene of an accident resulting in death, leaving the scene of an
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accident resulting in injury. driving without a license resulting in death and injury. but in court, his attorney argued today that the standard bond for that is $42,500. in the end, the judge reduced the $1 million bond that the family wanted the judge to keep in place. the judge reduced that bond on the defendant to $205 thorks. here's what the judge said about why he reduced it. >> i want the collateral. i want the houses at risk for this family. >> the judge also made sure he had the u.s. passport of the defendant and he's under house arrest. brooke? >> now that this bond is much, much lower, do we know he might
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post it? i know the sister wanted to have all the supporters. apparently 2,000 people came to the funeral. she wanted these people to come and support, i guess a show of solidarity to this judge. look, don't lower this guy's bond any further. >> he said, i understand, i've heard what you people say, but at the end of the day, the way he put it was this is not a beauty contest. the law is the law and this is the way it had to be, it had to go down today, that bond being reduced to that $205,000. but now the family, of course, their reaction was, listen, we still have to trust in the justice system. friends, though, were not so kind. they were very upset. 24er7 very angry. and you know why when you look at that video. they were saying ining he's go get out of jail. we don't know if he has the financial resources to get out of jail. apparently some of the property he owneds is in foreclosure or
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bankruptcy. but they are not happy. they are saying look, he is going to get out and he's going to flee. that's what their concern is. even though the passports were taken. if you listen to another little clip from that facebook video, you understand what brianne's message was she was trying to get across. >> even if you don't know me or my family or my sister. we need to stop this from happening. we need to stop drunk driving and we can start here. this guy needs to get what he despefshs. >> now, one other point, we did talk with sander guillen's attorney. we asked him, was your client driving drunk and his response was this, quote, i cannot even tell you whether or not my client was driving. the evidence will be disclosed by the state and then we will address it. >> we're going to stay on this one. appreciate it there in miami for
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>> we're going to take you to new orleans to talk saints in a moment. balfour is the man accused of killing jennifer hudson's family. you and i talked yesterday. you heard from jennifer hudson, the star witness, witness number one. who's been testifying today? a. >> well, today we have had four witnesses, brooke, and the state
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is going through the long process of building with their circumstantial case. we heard from jennifer hudson's mother and brother, dead in the house. then we heard from a 34ri6r in charge of organizing an amber alert. jennifer hudson is in court along with her sister and her fian fiance. during the testimony when this officer was talking about finding jennifer and julia hudson's mother dead, they both looked down. jennifer had you had sop was staring down at the ground. the other two witnesses were associates balfour. the day before or of the murders. >> bottom line, how did they make him out to be? >> well, they're his buddies so
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they're careful what they say. they're just basically answering questions where they were the day before in the phoenix vooek and the day off. say they saw him in the morning. couldn't get a hold of hit the day they saw on the news about the murders. the prosecution has alleged that this was a guy that was on his phone 24/7 but at the time of the murders for a period of six hours, his phone kent completely dead and they're using this information, even his buddies couldn't get hol of him as a jury of proof that he was business didoing other things. a. >> thank you. police h state police have joined the investigation into the new orleans saints. eavesdropping allegations against this particular team. let me bring in ed. he joins me from dallas. what do we now know? what is confirmed? >> let me give you a little bit of the back story. espn is reporting they have several sources saying during the 2002 to the 2004 football
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seasons in the envelope nv, the general manager of the new orleans saints had concocted this contraption to be able to listen through ear pieces to the coaches of the opposing team whence they would play in the superdome. that's the basis of the story. espn does not name its sources but we do know these allegations have made their way into law enforcement hands now in the state of louisiana. according to the louisiana state police, it is skbroining an investigation with the fbi to see if any eavesdrop organize wiretapping laws have been violated in all of this. so this story just starting to develop down there. as you well no know, brooke, the new orleans saints have been in the news for all the wrong reasons. center of the bounty gate investigation. ironically enough, the general manager which is now in question has already been suspended for eight games.
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this is 1,000% false and they are looking to see what kind of legal actions they can take for themselves. not only the team, but loomis himself. >> as soon as you lerp more, let me no e. the u.s. border patrol says there's no way the border can be 100% mon norred, but they are showing cnn this new equipment they're using in this fight against immigration. plus this -- >> this is just a full circle moment for both of us because we both were working and didn't have as much time for the volunteer work. >> baby boomers, some of them may be retiring but they're not exactly relaxing. a cnn in depth special is next. [ mujahid ] there was a little bit of trepidation,
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not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids.
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it's my world. that's my world. ♪ when you think of retirement do you think traveling perhaps? gardening? kicking .your feet? mary snow has this in depth look. meet 55-year-old brian and his wife 56-year-old lily, married
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for close to 30 years. they the met as teenagers voling at a camp for handicapped children. they're still volunteering. >> we both were working and didn't have as much time for the volunteer work. and now we're trying to get back to it. that's where our roots came from. >> lillian was a special education teacher for 30 years. brian, a carpenter by trade, worked seven days a week, often 15 hours a day. >> we didn't do a lot of vacationing because we did a lot of dog and cat rescue. >> now they volunteer their time attive at the christian-based organization habitat for humanity on long island, new york. they're part of a generation of 76 million americans born between 1946 and 1964 -- the baby boomers.
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the site supervisor has seen an increase in boomer volunteers. >> they're a role model for the younger generation. a know a lot of them have kids that they want to bring out and show them, this is what you can do. this is a path that you can volunteer, you know? and roll that into your life. >> according to volunteering in, the national volunteer rate between 2008 and 2010 was 26.5%. the national rate for baby boomers was 29.7%. a difference of 3.2%. boomers volunteered a t ee eed 2.9 billion years of service in 2010 alone. they don't have children and say they lived a simple life, they were able to entire early. >> we don't live large, therefor we' always been able to manage. >> a quick lunch break to play with their dog and hammering
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nails and lugging lumber, not your typical retirement plan. but for brian -- >> it's actually relaxing that i don't have to worry. >> we'll make it work. >> reporter: they volunteer several times a month, both for habitat and at their church. like their baby boomer partner, they show no signs of slowing down. >> there are other interests we both have, but this is a big piece of it. big piece of our hearts. >> nice. >> mary snow, cnn, new york. >> thank you. millions of dollars are spent trying to keep illegal immigrants from crossing the mexican border. an impossible task. >> it is very difficult to seal any part of the border 100% guarantees. we don't offer any guarantees in the border patrol. >> an exclusive look at this new technology that may help.
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by lapped and by air, curbing illegal immigration and the drug trade and preventing terror attacks. stricter laws, stricter border enforcement and fewer u.s. draws because of the housing bust. the supreme court is going to hear oral arguments on the controversial law. federal courts blocked four key parts of that law saying the
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court interference is making things worse. arizona says it's a financial strain and a safety concern and this the government isn't doing enough. we traveled to the border and got an exclusive tour and found out how they keep us safe and that border secure. >> nogales, traffic comes in mostly at night. but road we're on wasn't even here three months ago. why the push for building off these roads? >> this area right here, we had a difficult time getting east-west lateral access in order to patrol the actual border. you can see the end of the if ens. even to get hooer with a vehicle nay needed to build roads. previously, it was only on horse back. >> the terrain here is really
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pretty unforgiving. we just came down about a 200-foot drop. post 9/11, they've taken a sort of all threats environment stance. that means it doesn't matter whether these groups are trying to come here illegally, drug runners or potential terrorists. the environments are essentially the same. >> these guys are looking for signs that this ancient art of sign cutting they call it. >> we're looking for impressions in the dirt, signs of anyone walking through here. we want to look at the impressions in the ground and that's going to help us find. >> so i'm seeing. -- i'm not trained to do this. i'm seeing footprints here. >> yes, ma'am. >> this is the nerve center for cvp of everything they have eyes on. they're watching the ports of entry. they have eyes in the air. and then over here, the guys who
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watch it 24 hours a day gather all of this information together and figure out what to do next. >> the terrorism threat is the greatest threat to the nation. all agencies and all departments need to be focused on. >> we're going to get a very close look at the assets the border protection uses. >> what do you need the blackhawk for? >> sometimes we have to hover on one wheel. >> if patrolling on horse back is the mar traditional approach, this is the future. this is the predator. weighs just a touch over 8,000 pounds. but here's the payoff. it ehas a $2.5 million camera. it's equipped with an infrared
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sensor. that's a big deal. it can direct people on the ground exactly to the location of a target. >> the cockpit of this predator, we have a pilot actually flying the vehicle. and on the other, a sensor operator gathering information based on intelligence from different centers, which is what we've seen. >> it's difficult to seal the border 100%. >> it's on your shoulders. the responsibility of making sure there's not another 9/11 in this country. >> that's true. >> is that on your mind? >> every day when i put on this uniform. >> wow. thanks for the report. thanks for joining me in washington. and the picture right there, you standing next to that predator drone. is that taking some of the difficulty off the ground patrols. >> they don't see it taking the difficulty away as much as having one extra tool in the
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tool box. they're taking this layers approach, eyes on, see what a target might be. when you're talking about all the different threats at the border, but they need to have that protection from above. you have the drug issues going on. the immigration issues going on. weapons come into the country. and as we heard, the number one thing they worry about is terrorists coming in themselves to launch an attack or bring in material with them. so kind of using those different layers are really a necessity and still even then, we're not 100% safe. there's no way. >> horses, drones, and a lot in between. i just want to push everyone, you can read a lot more of suzanne's trip to the border and get more information on the blog. to new jersey we do, two new jersey state troopers are suspended after allegations they led high speed luckry cars down three different interstates. an nfl star is linked to this
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so-called death race 2010. all the details with you with the reporter that broke this story at the top of the hour. but first, nfl hall-of-famer deion sanders sends out tweets during a struggle at home. our next guest says it's just another one in a long line of celebrity breakups. ♪
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>> treending today, he is in the
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midst of a public divorce. now deion sanders posted a bizarre series of tweetis sayin his wife insulted him. pray for me and my kids now. they just witnessed their mother and a friend jumped me in my room. i can tell you there are two sides to every story and the truth will come out in court. june murray is an entertain. journalist. he's joining me once again in washington. john, good to see you. first, back up. what happened here? they join a long list of celebrities. your marriage falls apart, it's a bad thing to do. hollywood couples have to stop. >> they're in his house, with
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his kids. according to their allegations, he takes twitter, i think we have this picture. sends this twit pick and filling out what appears to be, here you go, police paperwork. why involve the kids? >> because it happened in front of the kids. her alleged actions are reprehensible. if the roles were were versed and the reports were deion sanders attacked pilar, we would be outraged. so the fact that the mother's three pboys attacked their father, we would be outraged. >> i guess if you're in love, the last thing you want to do is take it into a reality tv show. second story i wanted to talk
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about, susan sarandon is sitting with michael moore being interviewed. and along the course of the interviews, she says yeah, hi phone was tapped at some point in time. i was denied a security clearance to the white house. what more do you know about that this? >> she said she read her fbi file. susan sarandon is one of those really vocal politically opinionated celebrities. even i consult celebrities on this from time to time. the things you don't talk about, not to ail yat your fan base is politics and religion. when you do, you not only risk our chance of ill nate yating your fan base but you can red flag. hough she's a liberal and very much an open democrat, i wouldn't want her hanging out at the white house, too, if i was president barack obama. >>